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Re: Google Pagerank Pepper for Mint: Prank

Ernie Oporto — Tue, 10 Apr 2007 17:09:03 -0000

Everyone having trouble with this should download http://www.shokk.com/downloads/prank_104.zip and overwrite your current Prank install.

It has two new debug checkboxes. One will display the info in a tooltip, the other in text within the pepper display. The former is neater but will not display the whole URL due to tooltip length limits. The latter is messier, but displays the whole URL. Let me know if there is something wrong with the URL being requested or if you are still seeing the issue.

Re: Google Pagerank Pepper for Mint: Prank

Ernie Oporto — Mon, 26 Feb 2007 23:16:13 -0000

Tanc,
From what Grant says, he is following the rules for jiving with Google's service. Yours is more of a personal preference for not following those rules, so this is not going to work for you.

Re: Google Pagerank Pepper for Mint: Prank

Ernie Oporto — Mon, 26 Feb 2007 22:01:23 -0000

OK, I'll have to see about adding a debug mode so that we can get detailed output about what URLs are being requested, and exactly what the returned data looks like. It's quite possible you're getting non-numeric data back from Google for those URLs.

Can you copy and paste the displayed URLs from the Prank list into an email and shoot it my way?

Re: Google Pagerank Pepper for Mint: Prank

Grant Barrett — Mon, 26 Feb 2007 21:40:47 -0000

You're missing the point, Ernesto: I already have redirects in place in htaccess of exactly that nature and have had for THREE YEARS. MInt DOES NOT HAVE doubletongued.org assumed as the URL. It's using WWW.DOUBLETONGUED.ORG on EVERY URL. That's how they're showing up in Prank, too.

Re: Google Pagerank Pepper for Mint: Prank

Tanc — Mon, 26 Feb 2007 17:49:48 -0000

This doesn't work for me, I get the same problem as Grant Barrett. I don't want to change my htaccess, I hate www at the beginning.

Re: Google Pagerank Pepper for Mint: Prank

Ernie Oporto — Mon, 26 Feb 2007 11:17:29 -0000

Check the URLs individually at http://www.pagerankprediction.com
http://www.doubletongued.org/index.php/dictiona... has a pagerank of 5 and http://doubletongued.org/index.php/dictionary/gfe/ has a pagerank of 0.
If Mint has doubletongued.org as the domain for that URL in its database, then you will get a 0. I can't assume to put www at the front of the URL because there are too many cases where you could have any subdomain involved.

It is best for the Pepper to handle the general case where you use the .htaccess redirect described above to cover any inconsistencies.

Re: Google Pagerank Pepper for Mint: Prank

Grant Barrett — Mon, 26 Feb 2007 07:28:43 -0000

Here's a screen shot of the malfunctioning Prank. Note that looking up the URLs individually shows that they do have pageranks higher than zero. The second one, for example, has a pagerank of 5.

Re: Google Pagerank Pepper for Mint: Prank

Ernie Oporto — Sun, 25 Feb 2007 22:23:06 -0000

If you are talking about doubletongued.org, that is correct. www.doubletongued.org has a pagerank of 7 and doubletongued.org has a pagerank of 0. This totally depends on how people are visiting your site. If everyone is coming to www.doubletongued.org then that's how the site is known to Google and doubletongued.org is unknown. And it also depends on what Mint has in its database from these visitors. Quite literally, i am taking the URL from the Mint database, untouched, and passing it to Google. That's why it is so important that you redirect people that come to doubletongued.org to www.doubletongued.org

Can you take a screenshot and email it to me? Or post it on your site and post the URL in reply here?

Re: Google Pagerank Pepper for Mint: Prank

Grant Barrett — Sun, 25 Feb 2007 17:55:32 -0000

I have the same problem: nothing but "NA" graphics next to the most-popular URLs. My www.domain.com has a pagerank of 7, all my urls point to www, and I do not use the "trim urls" feature in the Default pepper. All the URLs listed in the Prank pane include "www."

Re: Google Pagerank Pepper for Mint: Prank

Ernie Oporto — Thu, 22 Feb 2007 13:35:53 -0000

I can verify that it does work with Mint 2. This is now uploaded to the Peppermill.

Re: Google Pagerank Pepper for Mint: Prank

Ernie Oporto — Sat, 17 Feb 2007 08:39:19 -0000

OK, so as I figured, ozzdesign.com itself has a pagerank of zero, while www.ozzdesign.com has a pagerank of 4. Having just unchecked the “trim www.” you won’t see those pages coming up yet - so far they have all been trimmed going into the database. Most of your traffic is coming to URLs like http://ozzdesign.com/SnapShooter/SnapShooter.php so you can see that they will all appear as N/A right now.

After having done the .htaccess changes, you want to test that it is working correctly. Go to ozzdesign.com and make sure that your browser is redirected to www.ozzdesign.com. If so, then you are all set and you have to sit back and wait. If not, you should talk with your hosting service to make sure they have not turned that off.

Google’s spiders take between one and two weeks to notice a change, so you may not see this change for some time. Keep an eye on it and you will see the URLs begin to gain their rightful pagerank.

Re: Google Pagerank Pepper for Mint: Prank

Ozzpot — Fri, 16 Feb 2007 21:20:46 -0000

www.ozzdesign.com

My Mint is in in open mode too, so you can go see:

http://www.ozzdesign.com/mint/

Re: Google Pagerank Pepper for Mint: Prank

Ernie Oporto — Fri, 16 Feb 2007 12:37:32 -0000

What is the URL of the site you are checking?

Re: Google Pagerank Pepper for Mint: Prank

Ozzpot — Fri, 16 Feb 2007 07:09:52 -0000

Thanks for the explanation Ernie.

I created a file called .htaccess consisting of just the code you posted earlier, and put it in the root of my site. I don’t know if it’s made ay difference, because my Prank is exactly the same as it was (all pages showing NA graphics), and it’s now a couple of days later. The predicter site says that most of my pages are rank 5 or thereabouts. Assuming this has worked, how long do you think it would be before I should see a change?

Re: Google Pagerank Pepper for Mint: Prank

Ernie Oporto — Wed, 14 Feb 2007 19:20:14 -0000

Use the page at this site to check www.site.com and site.com for the pagerank. Likely you will find one or the other does not have a pagerank.
http://www.pagerankprediction.com/

htaccess is a file, actually called “.htaccess” that can be placed somewhere on the web server to alter the behavior of the server. In this case, I recommend that it be placed at the root of the site with the lines indicated within the file so that attempts to go to site.com are redirected to include the www.site.com part. This is really more for indexing purposes these days - no one thinks of www.google.com, but instead just google.com. But the indexes can still come to www.site.com and that might be what Google knows the site as for its pagerank. Once that is in place it can take some time for Google’s pagerank scoring to adjust for your site.

Re: Google Pagerank Pepper for Mint: Prank

Ernie Oporto — Wed, 14 Feb 2007 14:19:09 -0000

Make sure that the box “Trim www and index.* from urls” is unchecked. Your site is likely indexed for www.site.com and not site.com. Believe it or not, these are two different things. This is a known issue for SEO folks, so to make sure that your site is indexed properly, see my comments above about adding a couple of lines to your .htaccess file.

Re: Google Pagerank Pepper for Mint: Prank

Ozzpot — Wed, 14 Feb 2007 11:03:38 -0000

Thanks for the reply Ernie, but I tried unchecking the “Trim www and index.* from urls”, but it made no difference.

I’d love to try the htaccess thing, but like I said, I have no idea what that is, what it does, and where I’d find it. I know almost nothing about the code side of webmastering. I can mess around with CSS, make a site look pretty much how I want, but when it comes to databases, php, htaccess, (whatever the heck those things are), I am literally clueless. You might as well be speaking Japanese!

Can you tell me where this htaccess thing is, and exactly what I need to do to it?

Thanks. :)

Re: Google Pagerank Pepper for Mint: Prank

Tanc — Wed, 14 Feb 2007 08:28:16 -0000

I also get an NA graphic for each page on Mint 2. Not sure what is up with this pepper…

Re: Google Pagerank Pepper for Mint: Prank

Ozzpot — Wed, 14 Feb 2007 01:43:23 -0000

I have had this installed on my Mint 2 for a few days now. Every page has the NA graphic, even though the site is over a year old and I know all the pages are top ranked. Any ideas what could be causing this, or how I could fix it?

Please bear in mind I know squat about the under-the-hood workings of this internet thing. Installing Mint was a confusing foray into the unknown for me. I have no idea what an htaccess is, what it does, or which way up I would have to hold it to make it work.

Is there anything simple I can do to get this working?

Thanks in advance for any help, and for making this pepper!

Re: Google Pagerank Pepper for Mint: Prank

Jamie Huskisson — Thu, 08 Feb 2007 18:43:39 -0000

This seems to be working perfectly fine with my Mint 2 installation :) Will let you know if anything goes wrong..

Re: Google Pagerank Pepper for Mint: Prank

Ernie Oporto — Thu, 01 Feb 2007 10:12:17 -0000

Don’t know yet. I have a Mint 2 license, but I haven’t installed it yet as I’m waiting for more bug fixes and conversions of current peppers. It never hurts to install it and find out.

Re: Google Pagerank Pepper for Mint: Prank

Kyle Korleski — Thu, 01 Feb 2007 05:53:40 -0000

Does it work with Mint 2?

Re: Google Pagerank Pepper for Mint: Prank

Ernie Oporto — Wed, 31 Jan 2007 21:08:34 -0000

And version 1.03 is now up to fix a problem that collided with Fresh Mint and probably broke a lot of other things.

Re: Google Pagerank Pepper for Mint: Prank

Elliott Cable — Wed, 31 Jan 2007 12:11:48 -0000

http://no-www.org/

Check it out. Maybe you’ll learn something.

WWW is evil! Don’t support it!

Re: Google Pagerank Pepper for Mint: Prank

Ernie Oporto — Wed, 31 Jan 2007 07:44:09 -0000

Smacks forehead.
OK I changed the jpg to a gif.
Version number is up to 102.

Please look into adding something like the following to your web site’s root .htaccess so that anyone going to mysite.com gets redirected to www.mysite.com. This is a known SEO issue.

RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} !^www\..* [NC]

RewriteRule ^(.*) http://www.%{HTTP_HOST}/$1 [R=301,NC]

or

RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^yourdomainname\.com

RewriteRule ^(.*)$ http://www.yourdomainname/$1 [R=permanent,L]